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Song of Blades



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Taught By: [Lady of Lore], [Son Goku], & [Indelible]


This is a class where Son Goku and I can teach some of the basic concepts of sword fighting and about swords. I cover mainly scimitars (particularly dual wielding), knives, great swords, long swords, bastard sword, spadroon, claymore, jian, kris, etc. There are explinations of each sword and how it is used to fight with, strengths and weaknesses are also analysed a bit. These are intended to help people especially with writing about such topics as I am not familiar with the techniques other than what I have read about or have an idea of as someone logically and, possibly ameturishly, view some of these weapons as. If you'd like to add to the info, I'd be glad to have your insight. We will also be happy to answer any questions or discuss ideas you may have.


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Students:

1. [Mataza_71191]
2. [BinaryPhoenix]
3. [Changer]
4. [Rosette]


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Brief Outline:


1. One handed weapons
2. Two handed weapons
3. Asian weapons
4. Dual wielding
5. Other


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One handed Weapons



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1. scimitars-

there are two types of these that I know of, the wide blade and the thin blade. The larger is laso known as a kilij whereas the smaller is a shamishir. Pictured here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scimitar_large.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scimitar_thin.png
There is no historic weapon called a scimitar as the name originated form the Arabic shamishir but now people are most familiar with the scimitar. The wider blade is employed for a cutting strike as the tapering and arcing of the blade increases this power. The hooked end is to cause greater damage with cleaving. The smaller blade is worn horizontally with the tip pointing up and employed in slashing unarmored enemies, the point can be used for thrusting but the curve of the blade makes this difficult to control.

2. knives-

those tiny to almost short sword sized blades that are made fashionable by both bad guys and good guys. Kinves come in all shapes as well as sizes and vary in both structure and forging methods from culture to culture. Yet these bladed weapons are amoung the most versatile of the family, Used as tools, a missle weapon, close range, pinning, cutting, thrusting, nicking, carving... etc. Two edged knives are very menuverable depending on how long they are. The user must be able to find the length and thickness that suits his or her fighting style. Ex. a longer blade for better reach but less menuverability, or a shorter blade for quick strikes with less reach. Kinves are almost a must have for the wandering adventurer. After all, how cool would Crocodile Dundee be without his knife?

3. long swords-

this catagory basically fits nost types of sword that are, obviously long and not too thick. Usually the most classic of swords. Most popular in fantasy novels, the long sword is on of the most broad classes. Long swords generally go from between two and a half feet to around three and a half. Any longer and the blade becomes harder to wield and is slower. The different thicknesses of the blades also effects fighting in both style and tecnique. A thicker blade will be used often by a stronger and crash and bash sort of character while a thin lithe blade suits those who fight with fluidity and speed. Some attatchments are also made to swords such as elaborate hooks or curves in the blade or hilt for obvoius reasons.

4. spadroon-

the lovely quick pace Spanish sword those who play Soul Caliber are familiar with. It is the foundation of Raphael's qick and grating cheapness. Thin and lithe, the blade isn't very good for slashing or brute force but it can pierce like and arrow and do much more damage. 

5. kris-

an elongated dagger, usually favored be assasin types, and are often highly decorated or forged in an artful manner. Curved blades are favorites, especially by evil characters.

6. Rapier

With a rapier the wit and skill of the wielder exibited. Greater skill reflects fewer stroakes to defeat an opponent.
The rapier (sometimes referred to as the 'smallsword')is significantly more refined than the gladius. It is a European sword with an extremely slender blade (less than 1.18 inches (3 cm) wide!) that nonetheless extends to a length of around 36 in. (90 cm). The famed 'dueling sword' was designed for thrusting but was unsuitable for chaotic battles. The rapier was a personal defense weapon, designed in a time period when handguns hadn't yet become practical. Dueling swords such as the rapier require a more graceful touch and skilled hand to use effectively and wouldn't be practical for mass combat.  Its length allows for mid-range combat outside of the short sword's effective range, and its lightweight design allows for quicker thrusts than the shortsword. Light and easy to carry, it is a choice weapon for noble-types looking to protect themselves. Its weaknesses are, of course, utter uselessness against heavily armored enemies, and its requirement of a greater knowledge of swordplay than the simplistic shortsword.

Gladius

The Roman Legionnaires swords that are about twenty-four inches (61 cm) in length, and are used mostly for stabbing. The gladius designed to be comfortably used with one hand against unarmored to lightly armored foes, sometimes in conjunction with a shield. There was little finesse involved in combat with a gladius, the primary idea being to simply thrust the blade into the foe's unarmored belly area. Later designs allowed for slashing attacks as well, but thrusting remained the most functional use. As a shortsword, its strengths laid in its light weight, relative ease of use, and relatively simple design.


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Two handed Weapons



1. great swords-

the favorite of heavy hitters such as barbarians, warriors, and other muscle powerful characters. Great swords are usually double-sided and have heavily deacortaed pommels. Though difficult to wield it is also difficult to block due to its sheer weight and size. If you ancounter someone weilding one of these dodging is probably the better defence.
2. claymore



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Asian Weapons



1. jian

2. shuriken-

the ninja throwing stars that come in various forms and decorative styles. They are made from all sorts of metals and even certain ones have been made fom wood. Yuffie from Final Fantasy 7 has forever immortalised the giant shuriken. ^^
3. dai katana

A dai katana is the greatest of katanas and is considered to reflest the heart and soul of the wielder.


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Other



There are of course, exceptions to every theory. For example a small character who can wield a long sword more like a staff and make it effective in both close range and distance fighting.

In regards to shortswords: Shortswords like the Gladius are practical, and to the travelling adventurer type, probably the best choice of swords to take depending on the level of training that person has.

Regarding Dualing Swords: The strengths of dueling swords lie in... well... bravado. Flashiness, finesse... these were more or less the strongest points of the weapon.


References:

Moorn's Technical Details from writersco

A good article talking about the katana and how it was the ninja and samuria's weapon. http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm


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2005-06-04 [shadow_angel]: i didn't know about Rouroni Kenshin show. i don't watch tv that much. its the blade i want to know about. i've got one from my grandfather and can't seem to find anything to explain the thing to me.

2005-07-09 [Lady of Lore]: the reverse blade swords that I know of are ones that are used by those who don't wish to kill thier opponents, merely to subdue. But i have only heard a little about them so I could be wrong. I know from on e Japaese legend a swordsman who made a reverse sword to keep him from killing any more people after he went carzy and killed his family.

2005-07-09 [shadow_angel]: do you know where i could look of more info? i really don't want to be a pest but i need to know. the blade has been pasted down for so long and the legen of it has well dissappeared from the blade.

2005-07-09 [Lady of Lore]: I don't but I will certanly look. I'm on vacation in Texas right now but once I go home I'll look it up in the legend book I've got. If its not htere I'll ask my grandma if she knows where to look.

2005-07-10 [shadow_angel]: thanks bunches

2005-07-16 [thehogfather]: I found this on the reverse blade katana, turns out I was wrong. It even has a different name. A sakabatō (逆刃刀 lit. reverse-edged sword) is a fictional type of Japanese sword.

2005-07-16 [thehogfather]: On the normal katana, the outward curved side of the blade is sharpened, while the inward curved side of the blade is blunt. In contrast, the sakabatō is made so that the cutting edge is on the side that curves inward.

2005-07-16 [thehogfather]: Although functional sakabatō are currently being produced for purchase by collectors and fans, there is no record of them ever having been produced or used historically, and no school of swordsmanship exists that employs them.

2005-07-16 [thehogfather]: Some Tanto (Knives) have been found that have "reversed blades". These are labeled kubikiri, sometimes translated as "head cutter" or "doctor's knife".

2005-09-19 [Son Goku]: hi hi hi! .... so, this isn't really a lesson here, but anyways....   i bought a sword a little while ago. so cool looking! and really neat! and what a dope! >_>. i used it to get my arms stronger by just swinging it, "to get the feel" and then this weekend, i actually tried to chop something... lol, and it broke >:(

2005-09-19 [Son Goku]: i only had it for 3 months..... grrr.... if ANYONE ever tires to buy a sword.... research first! you'll save yourself some good $$$

2005-09-19 [Mataza_71191]: yep i here that COLD STEAL swords are almost un break,bend or warp prouff. 

2005-09-20 [Son Goku]: hm.. i see. well, the blade itself is intact..... but the "handle" thing was made of some cheap wood that split almost entirely in half. now the sword's useless..... still cool looking but useless

2005-09-20 [Mataza_71191]: mount it on to a gontlint to were u get a sword arm!?!

2006-02-24 [Lady of Lore]: ALL right! Things are gonna get fired up around here! I'm working on drawings of the weapons and those should be uploaded soon!! ^^

2006-02-25 [Mataza_71191]: sweet!!!

2006-02-25 [Lady of Lore]: Woot ^^

2006-02-25 [Mataza_71191]: u know sumthin that suks...i train with woodn sticks but now they all break..and im not strong enough in my opinion to move to metal sticks.. :(

2006-02-25 [Lady of Lore]: don't hit antything with the sticks, just work on form and having a firm balance. Control is good too. ^^

2006-02-25 [Mataza_71191]: .........that will work.......

2006-04-14 [Mataza_71191]: would it be ok if i put up some information on the claymore

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